College CEO to step down after ‘serious heart attack’

A college chief executive is stepping down after suffering from a “serious heart attack”.

John van de Laarschot will end his five-year tenure at Nottingham College at the end of this year to “focus on regaining fitness and resilience”.

In a message to the college on Friday, chair Carole Thorogood thanked van de Laarschot for his “significant contribution and to wish him well with his ongoing recovery”.

Martin Sim, a deputy FE Commissioner, took over from van de Laarschot at Nottingham College in May.

The college has gone through a troublesome period since being created from a merger of New College Nottingham and Central College Nottingham in 2017.

It was subject to 15 days of strikes in 2019, during which University and College Union members dealt a vote of no confidence to the leadership. Months later, the college was downgraded by Ofsted from ‘good’ to ‘requires improvement’.

In 2020 it was subject to FE Commissioner intervention after hitting “serious cashflow pressures”, which arose after the college completed a major £58.5 million build and following the Covid-19 pandemic.

The college has long term debt of £47.2 million and recorded a deficit of £10,million in 2020, according to its latest published accounts.

Thorogood said van de Laarschot “successfully led the college through a challenging and difficult merger securing funding from the ESFA, City Council, LEP and Barclays”.

“He has worked tirelessly to consolidate the college’s estate and deliver the superb city hub campus whilst establishing a positive vision and values which now underpin the college’s future as the preferred destination for students and an employer of choice for staff,” she added.

“Under his leadership the college has successfully navigated challenging financial and quality focused issues and has emerged stronger and well positioned for the future.”

Nottingham College has more than 1,000 staff and teaches around 20,000 students each year.

A spokesperson for the college said leadership will embark on finding a new permanent chief executice to ensure they are in post by the beginning of August 2022.

Sim will continue as interim boss until the appointment is made.

Zahawi announces slowing down of BTECs cull

Plans to start removing funding for most BTECs and other applied general qualifications from 2023 will be delayed by a year, the education secretary has announced.

Nadhim Zahawi also revealed tonight that the exit requirements for English and maths in T Levels will be removed.

During the second reading of the Skills and Post-16 Education Bill to the House of Commons this evening, he told MPs: “I am clear that T Levels and A-levels should be front and centre of the level 3 landscape.

“But I am also convinced that we need other qualifications alongside them – many of which currently exist – that play a valuable role in supporting good outcomes for students. It is quite likely we will see many BTECs and other similar applied general style qualifications continuing to play an important role in 16 to 19 education, for the foreseeable future.

“Our reforms to the qualifications landscape are rightly ambitious, but we know that we would be wrong to push too hard and risk compromising quality. That is why I am announcing today that we have decided to allow an extra year before our reform timetable is implemented.”

It means that qualifications affected by the cull will now not be defunded until 2024 at the earliest, compared to the original plan of 2023.

The announcement will be seen as a win for the Protect Student Choice campaign, a coalition of FE and skills sector organisations led by the Sixth Form Colleges Association, which has been calling for the plans to be reversed or at least slowed down.

Many MPs and Lords have also backed the call of the campaign in recent months, which has led to the new Department for Education ministerial team softening their language around the reforms.

Zahawi said tonight that this extra year will “allow us to continue to work hard to support the growth of T Levels and gives more notice to providers, awarding organisations, employers, students and parents so that they can prepare for the changes”.

Bill Watkin, chief executive of the Sixth Form Colleges Association, said he was “pleased” by the delay but added it is “vital the government uses this extra year to develop a transparent process for determining the future of these qualifications that involves providers, students and employers”.

Association of Colleges chief executive David Hughes also welcomed the announcement, saying it shows the education secretary “has been listening and examining the evidence”.

In his speech, Zahawi also announced the requirement for T Level students to reach level 2 in English and maths by the end of their course will be watered down.

He said the Department for Education hears “consistently” that some students are being put off taking a T Level because of the rule.

“I can also announce today that we will remove the English and maths exit requirement from T Levels,” he told MPs.

“This will bring them in line with other qualifications, including A-levels, and ensure talented young people with more diverse strengths are not arbitrarily shut out from rewarding careers in sectors such as construction, catering and health-care. The Institute for Apprenticeships and Technical Education is taking immediate steps towards this.”

Following a two-stage level 3 and below review, launched in March 2019, the DfE announced last July it would strip public funding from “poor quality” qualifications which overlap with T Levels or A-levels.

The department’s response to the review consultation revealed that BTEC qualifications would become “rare” once it begins phasing in a new “streamlined” system for level 3 courses from 2023.

Watkin said that funding should not be withdrawn for any BTEC “unless there is clear evidence that the qualification is not valued by students or employers.

“An evidence-based approach, involving those directly involved in delivery, is essential if we are to have a qualification system that works for everyone.”

Hughes added: “Delaying defunding gives more time for greater evaluation of T levels and how they work in the new landscape of qualifications.

“I want all pathways, including T levels to be a success and to be as accessible to as many students as possible. Removing the English and maths GCSE exit requirement in all T levels and the extra flexibilities on industry placements announced last week will open up these new qualifications to many more students.”

Interview: Tom Richmond

His name, and the name of his think tank, gets everywhere. How is one man who left teaching twice so influential in the busy world of education policy?

You have to admire Tom Richmond’s nerve.

There aren’t many teachers who, after three years in the classroom, decided the Department for Education was messing up, thought they’d offer to help out – and ended up doing precisely that, as a civil servant adviser to Michael Gove and then-skills minister Matt Hancock.  

He may also be unique in returning to the classroom and finding, in his own words, that “Brexit was sucking the oxygen” out of education policy debates, and deciding to set up his own think tank instead.   

Nowadays, Richmond and his think tank, EDSK (which stands for Education and Skills) are featured regularly across the press: his report on reforming assessment was covered across the i, the Mirror, the Express and trade media in January, while another on ‘fake apprenticeships’ hit BBC headlines last year. 

A BBC interview in 2018 after returning to politics

Also unlike most think tanks, EDSK gives FE proper attention. Out of ten reports, its first was on Ofsted inspections in schools, but its second was on post-18 individual education budgets. There are two more, on the apprenticeship levy and the purpose of FE. That’s three reports: the same number EDSK has published on schools (the other reports are on higher education). 

Yet for a policy obsessive, Richmond says “in the first 25 years of my life, I’d never shown the slightest interest in politics. Until I went into the classroom.”   

He is the third of four children, born to a software developer father and a mother who retrained as a modern languages teacher to help pay for his fees at Haberdashers’ Aske’s private school.

Richmond at primary school in 1980

Having “never really fallen for any subjects” at school, Richmond was at a loss what to study next, when he came across a “dusty old psychology textbook” in the library.  

“I absolutely fell in love with the subject in the space of a single book,” he says. He studied psychology at Birmingham University, then decided to “dig into the practical side” of the subject and turned to teaching. He took a PGCE at the UCL Institute of Education, followed by a masters in child development, and volunteered for Childline. The initial goal was to “share the love of my subject”.    

But this was soon overtaken by another preoccupation, in his first job teaching A-level students in 2004. “I started, like many teachers around the country, being the recipient of how things should work,” he begins. “And it dawned on me that some very strange decisions were being made.”  

At the time, New Labour was seeking to switch from six to four A-level units. “I thought, there may be arguments for this, but the disruption it will cause me, compared to any real benefits to my students, is surely wrong. Who is advising these politicians?”   

But is someone with only three years’ teaching experience well placed to advise ministers?  

“It felt to me there were very few perspectives from teachers getting through.” At the time “there wasn’t really a crop of young teachers trying to make a difference using what they’d learnt” when he left his school in 2007, he says.  

First, he became a research intern with Conservative MP Andrew Turner, then a researcher at the Social Market Foundation on reforming benefits.

His first job in education policy was at the Policy Exchange think tank from 2008 to 2009, under education policy expert Sam Freedman, who later also advised Gove. Policy Exchange is seen as right-wing leaning – given his work for Turner, is Richmond?   

“I wasn’t strongly political. I’d been a member of a teaching union before,” he shrugs, before saying it was the coming change that appealed to him.

“It was healthy that a new government came in in 2010, and said ‘some things are not working, we’re not convinced by coursework, and attainment around the C/D borderline is a problem’.”

He adds: “Policy Exchange became an ideas-generating machine, and I found that very exciting.”   

Graduating from Birmingham University in 2002

It was here that Richmond became a school teacher deeply interested in skills. Freedman was clear this was a “huge blind spot” in policymaking, partly because so few MPs, civil servants and policy advisors had experience of the FE and skills system, he adds. 

Digging into apprenticeships and colleges has made a lasting impression on Richmond. “One of the things it rammed home to me was that we have these enormous cliff edges in our education system, and we have no concept, it seems, of making a smooth transition from the world of education to employment. I’ve never seen another country treat it like that. They work much harder to blend the world of education and employment, where employers are much more freely involved in the world of education.”   

He raises his eyebrows. “We know the scarring effects. I find it immensely frustrating.”  

After advising the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development, and being head of policy on the Welfare to Work programme for unemployed adults at G4S, Richmond soon found himself being interviewed by Hancock to advise the government on skills in 2013. (It perhaps says a lot that the government still looked to a former school teacher who had learnt about the skills system, rather than an FE member of staff, to be their skills adviser.) 

He was kept busy. Both the Wolf Report on vocational education in 2011 and the Richard Review of apprenticeships in 2012 were a “sign” to Richmond that “the government realised there was a really important agenda that hadn’t been finalised”, he says. He worked on everything from reforming the apprenticeship system to helping with the introduction of traineeships and new vocational qualifications.

Outside No 10 in 2008 after leaving teaching for politics

But after two years at the DfE, Richmond wanted to return to working with young people, and so joined a sixth- form college in 2016. It had been almost ten years since he’d been a teacher. How was it this time?   

“I was working 60- or 70-hour weeks, which was strangely reminiscent of me being in teaching before,” he says. “I was not able to shave off any hours in the week, even though I knew the reforms were coming!”   

The job was clearly not done. So in 2018 Richmond took a couple of research fellow posts: working on the apprenticeship levy for the Reform think tank, and writing a report on T Levels for Policy Exchange.

In that, he acknowledges the “entirely justified concerns” around timescale for T Levels, and calls for awarding organisations to join employers in consortium, in an attempt to head off delivery woes early. 

Then in 2019, he founded EDSK. The output has been immense, with each report snappily titled and usually around 60 pages.

The Requires Improvement report on Ofsted calls for government to scrap the four overall grades and to introduce a ‘score card’ packed with information instead (you can imagine the suggestion being welcomed by colleges, but it focuses only on schools).

His second report, Free to Choose, also from 2019, calls for post-18 students to get a ‘learning account’ with up to £20,000 (depending on how disadvantaged the student is) to spend on a “single tertiary education system” of universities, colleges and apprenticeships. Again, you can hear colleges cheering. 

The third report on FE hit the headlines in January 2020 for claiming that half of all apprenticeships started since 2017 were ‘fake’ and had been wrongly allocated £1.2 billion.

Richmond called for a new world-class definition of an apprenticeship decided by the DfE (not employers), and said the term ‘apprenticeship’ should apply only to level 3, not to levels 4 to 7, which should be called ‘technical and professional education’ instead. 

 “Bearing in mind other think tanks have had a 20-year head start, setting up a new think tank in this environment is a steep learning curve,” smiles Richmond. It’s funded through sponsored research, events and an annual ‘partnership’ scheme for supporters. You can see he’s pleased with how it’s turning out.   

Charity trek to the Himalayas to raise money for Childline

The success is likely down to a multitude of factors. First, Richmond can write exceptionally clearly, and makes bold recommendations aimed straight at the DfE – a win with journalists and policymakers alike.    

Second, he can think around the stickiest of problems. Take the fourth report relevant to FE, Further Consideration, this time co-authored with another researcher, Andrew Bailey.

Although Bailey is, again, a former school teacher, the report was funded by the Further Education Trust for Leadership and included interviews with the great and good of FE.  

The report makes the intriguing proposition that all FE colleges should be split into separate institutions with “their own brand and identity”: community colleges (for entry- level courses), sixth-form colleges (for A-levels), and technology colleges (for all technical, vocational and apprenticeship training, with a monopoly on T Levels).

It also called for an ‘FE director’ in every area. Even if you don’t agree, it’s a comprehensive effort to plan a more unified system, and well worth a read. 

Finally, it definitely helps when journalists can say “a former Michael Gove advisor says”. Now he’s even set up a new podcast to discuss the issues of the day. Taken together, these factors have made Richmond an unusually powerful former teacher.  

Richmond recording a podcast episode

Yet the fact remains he was pushed out of the classroom, twice. Richmond admits of his last stint: “They were two very tiring and exhausting years.”  

Leaving the classroom has worked out for Richmond, and he is doing a commendable job thinking up rigorous system ideas for FE in a landscape where too few think tanks treat colleges, training providers, schools and universities on a par. 

Perhaps, however, until his think tank – and other think tanks, and ministers – prioritise the policy crisis of workload and teacher demotivation, then bright minds like Richmond’s won’t make half the impact they really deserve to.  

Building a sense of community can be hard in FE

Graduation day is one of the rituals that can help students feel they belong, writes Daniel Phillips

“She worked so hard. We’re so proud.” 

It’s in that moment that graduation is no longer about daft hats, but glistening eyes and proud smiles. That’s when you find out what it means to your students. 

The weight of word counts, observations and grading criteria is lifted, replaced with recognition. 

This week was the turn of our college students from both 2020 and 2021 to don gowns and take the stage. While 2020 had a smaller ceremony last year (thanks to you-know-what), this time they had the full treatment.  

And it was during that smaller occasion that I saw the meaning of passing through and being accepted as a degree holder. 

When I was a student, I just rented the gown last minute, skipped across the stage and went on to the next thing. I’m not sure I saw the point of pomp and ceremony.  

But when I hear the cheer from my students’ families at their graduation, this rite of passage, this public display of togetherness, gives wider meaning to that piece of paper. I’m talking about a sense of community and a shared meaning that I think we can forget as teachers.  

Away from making our lesson objectives, workshop and classroom practices ‘just right’, how do we build that wider sense of belonging that cannot be described through data? Do we have time to create community in our colleges? Why does it matter? 

You’ll be pleased to hear that I’ve done the research so that you don’t have to.  

For many students enrolling in education, but especially those who are the rare breed of ‘HE in FE’, this process of starting a degree feels new and ‘risky’.

For these students, who may be the first in their family to do this route, the delayed gratification of graduation can feel distant on day one.  

As teachers we may bemoan that students look to what their friends are doing, but this is a phenomenon that has an impact on outcomes.

Students’ “investments in education… depend not only on individual benefits, such as test scores and grades, but also on social benefits, such as whether a particular level of effort is consistent with the behaviour of one’s social group”.

That’s according to a 2014 paper by Lavecchia et al in the National Bureau of Economic Research. 

So anything that gives your experience a broader community meaning creates the ties that bind. In other words, it’s not just about teaching the technical ‘how-to’ of a subject or course.  

It’s also about finding the space for students to develop their perspectives, come together as a student body and have the opportunity to make an impact in their college society.  

But coming together is a huge challenge in further education. Our students’ timetables are more fluid than those of a school, and the campus does not have the ‘completeness’ of a university. 

Our student timetables are more fluid than a school’s

And austerity’s screw has turned tightest in FE, leaving us with limited capacity to build links and ‘do extra’. 

The building of a community also needs direct sustained leadership. Perhaps, for example, this week your staff and students marked Armistice Day together.

As a teacher, I’ve often been guilty of forgetting this social aspect of learning, too consumed by my technical tasks to see the community.  

My colleagues have been better, with new student mentorship schemes, cross-course projects and social events, especially after lockdown. But before I become another ‘do as I say, not as I do’, I’ve started to find the time to do this. 

Because how students experience this small society while at college has as much potential to shape their approach to learning as our pedagogy. 

That’s really why graduation day matters so much to them. 

The immigration system is blocking FE learners from reaching HE

Colleges need to appoint a member of staff who understands migrant status issues, writes Vanessa Joshua

“I came out with the second highest grade in my whole sixth-form cohort. So imagine not being able to go to university and everybody asking you, ‘Oh! What uni are you going to?’… Mentally, it has a big impact on me:” Gabrielle, 24

Many young people across England are now well into their university journey after a challenging year last year. 

The first two months are behind them, and some will be on a reading week ahead of Christmas as they catch up with the term’s assignments. 

Unfortunately for many young people with insecure immigration status like Gabrielle (not her real name), such an opportunity has been closed off.

The Centre for Education and Youth published a report this year in collaboration with King’s College London called Higher Education on Hold.

It lays bare how the potential of hard-working, high-achieving young people with insecure immigration status is being squandered by a punitive immigration system, inflexible student finance, and poor advice and guidance.  

Having overcome numerous hurdles in their personal lives, thousands of young people are needlessly prevented from accessing higher education each year.

This is despite many having lived in the UK since they were children.

These barriers are linked directly to their status as pupils with asylum status. Students with limited or indefinite leave to remain do not qualify for home status, except in specific circumstances.

Due to rules set out by the government in 2015, these pupils don’t qualify for home status and cannot access student finance.

Instead, they must pay tuition as an international student – with fees rising up to £30,000 per year. 

Young people and practitioners shared the frustration and sense of hopelessness generated by navigating the immigration system.

A lack of knowledge or understanding was a constant theme throughout our research. 

This is little surprise: our immigration system is designed to be opaque and, in some cases, punitive.

These young people and their carers often do not know their status or how it impacts their entitlement to apply to university, or to access financial support.  

Experts we interviewed explained that status-related barriers often become apparent only once a pupil begins their university application.

Sometimes it only becomes apparent once they have already started their course, which can land unsuspecting young people in considerable debt. 

Even when young people obtain legal, regularised status (such as limited leave to remain), they must hold it for three years before they can apply for student finance.

So rather than supporting young people to unleash their potential, we trap them in a waiting game, creating uncertainty that negatively impacts their mental health.

One young person said: All I can say is we have a lot of anxiety, and we go through all this, being limited and being blocked and having all these obstacles.”

Greater knowledge of immigration statuses and their implications would mitigate some of these challenges.

It is of course not feasible to expect teachers to be well versed in complex immigration law and student finance rules. 

However, sixth forms and colleges play a crucial role in young people’s transition to higher education.

Their support is vital. Therefore, post-16 settings should have at least one staff member with a basic understanding of different statuses and their implications for student finance.  

But with their limited time and resources, they cannot do this work alone.  

Practitioners and career advisors in FE and HE settings can access training on how immigration status affects student finance eligibility through the Student Loans Company.

The Department for Education sets and enforces the existing restrictions

I would also encourage senior leaders across all settings to reach out to organisations with expertise in this area, such as We Belong, a migrant youth-led charity.

Finally, the Department for Education sets and enforces the existing restrictions. To stop this, a change to eligibility rules is needed.

Together we can empower and support young people like Gabrielle to access higher education and realise their potential. 

We just need to mirror the determination that carried them on their long journey to results day.

Five ways Michelle Donelan can grow degree apprenticeships without a cheque book

Remove a ton of restrictions and stop focusing on 18-19-year-olds, writes Mandy Crawford-Lee

In her recent evidence to the education select committee, Michelle Donelan was clear that the government wants more degree apprenticeships.  

The minister for higher and further education even went so far as to say she was looking at financial incentives to encourage universities to offer them.  

As the university representative organisation championing degree apprenticeships, UVAC is clear that financial incentives could have a useful role. But there are five actions the minister could easily take, without getting the cheque book out.

1. Open the ESFA Register of Apprenticeship Training Providers (RoATP) to all higher education institutions

Staggeringly, the ESFA has in recent years restricted the ability of universities to apply to the RoATP. 

It was only reopened to new applicants, including universities, in August. Even now universities not on the RoATP may only apply if they fulfil a gap in provision or have been named as a preferred provider in an employer business case.  

The ESFA should open up applications to the RoATP for all higher education institutes and make clear that any successful university applicant can deliver all approved degree apprenticeships.  

The reapplication process to RoATP for universities should also be simplified. 

2. Remove restrictions on who is eligible for degree apprenticeship programme

Unfortunately, in recent years there has been a very public debate on introducing financial measures to restrict the growth of degree apprenticeship. 

FE representative organisations and various think tanks have proposed the introduction of age restrictions, reducing the proportion of levy funds that can be used to fund degree apprenticeships.

They have also proposed reducing opportunities for employers to use degree apprenticeships for existing staff, or individuals who already have a degree.  

The latter proposal would mean a 25-year-old with an English degree was prevented from using a degree apprenticeship to train as a police officer or registered nurse. 

To avoid reducing confidence in the degree apprenticeship offer further, ministers must make a long-term financial commitment to their future.

3. Shift the focus away from just 18-19-year-olds 

I am concerned at the apparent focus on 18-19-year-olds’ awareness of degree apprenticeships. In many cases, these apprenticeships are most appropriate for older learners.  

In many cases these apprenticeships are most appropriate for older learners

The police constable degree apprenticeship is a case in point. It supports the professionalisation of police recruitment and training and has been successfully used to recruit more women and individuals with a minority ethnic background. 

Ministers should certainly challenge universities, but they should also celebrate the success of their existing degree apprenticeship policy, including targeting older learners.

4. Clarify processes

The Institute for Apprenticeships and Technical Education’s current review of degree apprenticeship policy provides an excellent framework.

There are, however, some gaps in the review. There is little information on how the Office for Students will deliver its external quality assurance role in degree apprenticeship end-point assessment, or what universities should expect.  

At the same time, the ESFA has still not outlined how the use of credit in the degree to deliver the end-point assessment complies with their funding rules.  

Such uncertainty acts as a brake on investment by universities and therefore the growth of degree apprenticeships.  

Ministers should confirm that the IfATE leads the apprenticeship agenda and instruct OfS and ESFA to clarify their processes.

5. Develop a degree apprenticeship growth plan 

IfATE, working with trailblazers and the HE sector through UVAC, should develop a degree apprenticeship growth plan. Such a growth plan, focused on skills needs and the net zero and levelling-up agendas, would identify where there was the most need and potential to deliver degree apprenticeships. 

Degree apprenticeships require upfront investment in developing programmes and end-point assessment systems; recruiting and training new staff; and promoting programmes to employers and learners.

UVAC looks forward to supporting the minister to realise her ambitions to substantially grow degree apprenticeship participation. We hope she finds the above suggestions helpful.

AEB business case outcomes delayed

Colleges will have longer to wait to find out whether their business cases against a controversial adult education budget clawback have been successful.

They had expected to receive the outcomes of the Education and Skills Funding Agency’s review of these cases this coming Monday.

Yet the ESFA has today confirmed there will be a “short delay” in communicating outcomes.

“We recognise the importance of notifying decisions to those providers who submitted business cases as soon as possible,” a spokesperson said.

“We have undertaken a comprehensive review of each case and want to ensure that our decisions are correct, as a result there is a short delay whilst we finalise those outcomes.”

The ESFA said it could not provide a new deadline for the outcomes.

Around 50 colleges submitted business cases, the Association of Colleges has said.

Providers resisted 90 per cent adult education funding clawback

The ESFA attracted a large amount of sector criticism when it announced in March providers would have to use at least 90 per cent of their 2020/21 AEB grant funded allocation or hand back cash up to that threshold.

At that time, officials ruled out allowing colleges to submit business cases.

Providers protested that having to hand back funding would affect cashflow, capital spending and future planning.

The Association of Colleges predicted the threshold put “tens of millions of pounds” in college funding at risk.

Leicester College, which was affected by a drawn-out lockdown in its home city, highlighted how it had been “impacted by the pandemic far more severely than 2019/20,” when the AEB reconciliation threshold was set at 68 per cent.

Following the pressure from the sector, the agency announced in September it would allow colleges which had not spent 90 per cent of their allocation to submit business cases explaining why they should be able to keep the funding. 

A deadline of October 7 was set for submitting business cases.

MOVERS AND SHAKERS: EDITION 369

Brad Rushton, Chief executive, SCL Education Group

Start date: October 2021

Previous job: Group managing director, SCL Education Group

Interesting fact: His father was a motocross racer and named his son after American former professional motocross racer Brad Lackey, who won the motocross world championship the year Brad was born.


Tim Balcon, Chief executive, CITB

Start date: September 2021

Previous job: Chief executive, IEMA

Interesting fact: He started his career as a British Gas apprentice.


Stephen Davis, Chief executive and group principal, United Colleges Group

Start date: November 2021

Previous job: Group principal, United Colleges Group

Interesting fact: He once looked after the Foo Fighters for a day when they were playing at the Glasgow Barrowlands. They wanted to play golf, even though they never had – he spent a long Saturday afternoon apologising to the other golfers.

The FE Week Podcast: Industry and FE, tertiary sector reform and Lifelong Learning Week

This week Shane is joined by Stephen Evans, chief executive at the Learning and Work Institute, and Lynette Leith, vice principal at Hull College – to discuss the hot topics.

What is the relationship between industry and FE in the context of skills shortages relating to Covid and Brexit?

Should England follow Wales in combining further and higher education funding?

And the guests discuss their reflections on the state of lifelong learning.

Listen to episode 6 below, and hit subscribe to follow the podcast!